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• [NPA Chat] vixra.org   Antonio Saraiva
• [NPA Chat] vixra.org   marvin eli kirsh
• [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Walter Babin
  • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Robert Kerr
    • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Walter Babin
      • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Robert Kerr
    • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Walter Babin
      • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   Walter Babin
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Walter Babin
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Walter Babin
  • [NPA Chat] kq=h/c   David Tombe
• [NPA Chat] Fine structure constant   Antonio Saraiva
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 422, Issue 1   MainframeII
  • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 422, Issue 1   Dave Howells
• [NPA Chat] Help me please   Antonio Saraiva
  • [NPA Chat] Help me please   Jan Olof Jonsson
• [NPA Chat] Fw: Ritz conference   fritzius at bellsouth.net
  • [NPA Chat] Fw: Ritz conference   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] Fw: Ritz conference   Tom Miles
• [NPA Chat] Actual discoveries, password ehabgeva   Jan Olof Jonsson
• [NPA Chat] Support for Saraiva   Don Briddell
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 425, Issue 1   MainframeII
  • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 425, Issue 1   Hartwig Thim
• [NPA Chat] Fw: A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Walter Babin
• [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Michael Riversong Education
  • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Dan McCoin
  • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   altsci1 at gmail.com
  • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists   Pal Asija
• [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists - SOLVED   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
  • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists - SOLVED   altsci1 at gmail.com
    • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists - SOLVED   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] A problem for pro- and anti-relativists - SOLVED   altsci1 at gmail.com
• [NPA Chat] Principle of Relativity not finished yet   altsci1 at gmail.com
• [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   Walter Babin
    • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   David Tombe
    • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   Tom Miles
      • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   Walter Babin
  • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   altsci1 at gmail.com
    • [NPA Chat] On The Postulates Of Relativity   Walter Babin
      • [NPA Chat] GR, SR and Newtonian physics   Roger Anderton
  • [NPA Chat] Warning   David Tombe
    • [NPA Chat] Warning   Ingvar Åstrand
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   James Wright
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Big Bang vs Nova explosions   diego.saa at epn.edu.ec
      • [NPA Chat] Big Bang vs Nova explosions   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   Franco Selleri
      • [NPA Chat] --The Cosmological Redshift   James Wright
    • [NPA Chat] Warning   john-erik persson
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] Warning   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Warning "The New 1984 Metre"   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] Warning "The New 1984 Metre"   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Warning "The New 1984 Metre"   David Tombe
• [NPA Chat] Video Conterence Saturday on Improved Relativity Theory and Doppler Theory of Gravity   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Fritzius
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Fritzius
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Fritzius
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Dave Smith
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Fritzius
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Viraj Fernando
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Mitch Emery
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Fritzius
      • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Roger Munday
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   carl littmann
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Robert Kerr
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Pal Asija
    • [NPA Chat] Single Slit Diffraction   Tom Miles
• [NPA Chat] Warning   CATHOLIC CHARITY FOUNDATION
  • [NPA Chat] Warning   Franco Selleri
• [NPA Chat] Warning   Fondazione Pantellini
• [NPA Chat] Warning   CATHOLIC CHARITY FOUNDATION
• [NPA Chat] cambio indirizzo email   Paolo Inglese
• [NPA Chat] Diffraction Discussion   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Diffraction Discussion   Tom Miles
• [NPA Chat] 8/23 Video talk: Unified Theory Replaces Relativity Theories   Dr R.R. Sharma
• [NPA Chat] Fw: 8/23 Video talk:Correction   Dr R.R. Sharma
• [NPA Chat] Diffraction Problem   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Diffraction Problem   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Antonio Saraiva
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Lee Smolin   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Speed of light   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Absolute v relative   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Ken Seto   Pal Asija
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 435, Issue 1   MainframeII
• [NPA Chat] Chapter 15 Jenkins and White   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Chapter 15 Jenkins and White   Pal Asija
  • [NPA Chat] Chapter 15 Jenkins and White   Tom Miles
  • [NPA Chat] SR dead   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] SR dead   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR dead   Roger Anderton
  • [NPA Chat] Proposal for definition of Absolute motion   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Proposal for definition of Absolute motion   Pal Asija
      • [NPA Chat] Proposal for definition of Absolute motion   Roger Anderton
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   MainframeII
  • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Roger Anderton
• [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate Between Roger Anderton and Yuri Keilman   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate Between RogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate BetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   carl littmann
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The DebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   carl littmann
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Hartwig Thim
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Hartwig Thim
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Hartwig Thim
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Hartwig Thim
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Hartwig Thim
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Sadanand Savarkar
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   David Tombe
  • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate Between Roger Anderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
    • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate Between RogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate Between RogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate BetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The Debate BetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The DebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The DebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and TheDebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The DebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and The DebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and TheDebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes and TheDebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes andTheDebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes andTheDebateBetweenRogerAnderton and Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes andTheDebateBetweenRogerAndertonand Yuri Keilman   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Einstein's Mistakes andTheDebateBetweenRogerAndertonand Yuri Keilman   altsci1 at gmail.com
• [NPA Chat] Critique Of Einstein's Appendix I -Simple Derivation Of Lorentz Transform   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Critique Of Einstein's Appendix I -Simple Derivation Of Lorentz Transform   Antonio Saraiva
  • [NPA Chat] Critique Of Einstein's Appendix I -Simple Derivation OfLorentz Transform   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Critique Of Einstein's Appendix I -Simple Derivation OfLorentz Transform   altsci1 at gmail.com
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Stephan Gift
  • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Roger Anderton
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Stephan Gift
  • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Roger Anderton
• [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
  • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Stephan Gift
    • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Dan McCoin
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Dan McCoin
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Dan McCoin
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Roger Anderton
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Dan McCoin
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Roger Anderton
    • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Robert Kerr
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Stephan Gift
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Robert Fritzius
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   altsci1 at gmail.com
      • [NPA Chat] Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   Robert Fritzius
• [NPA Chat] Einstine's mistake   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] Fw: Challenge To Yuri Keilman and SR Supporters   marvin eli kirsh
• [NPA Chat] Non-Darwinian Evolution   Dr R.R. Sharma
  • [NPA Chat] Non-Darwinian Evolution   Roger Anderton
• [NPA Chat] One ET to another ET   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] New paper   Antonio Saraiva
• [NPA Chat] The Mathematical Theory Of Huygen's Principle   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] The Mathematical Theory Of Huygen's Principle   Tom Miles
• [NPA Chat] MembersChat Digest, Vol 438, Issue 1   Michael Riversong Education
• [NPA Chat] Non-Darwinian Evolution   Stephan Gift
• [NPA Chat] On Diffraction and Huygens Principle   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] On Diffraction and Huygens Principle   Pal Asija
    • [NPA Chat] On Diffraction and Huygens Principle   HARRY RICKER
      • [NPA Chat] On Diffraction and Huygens Principle   Pal Asija
  • [NPA Chat] On Diffraction and Huygens Principle   Robert Fritzius
• [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   Dan McCoin
    • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   Harald van Lintel
    • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   David Tombe
      • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To DanMcCoin   Harald van Lintel
      • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Harald van Linten   David Tombe
    • [NPA Chat] The Speed Of Light In Relativity-Response To Dan McCoin   HARRY RICKER
• [NPA Chat] One ET to another ET   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] One ET to another ET   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Michael Riversong Education
  • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   HARRY RICKER
  • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Roger Anderton
  • [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Dave Howells
• [NPA Chat] STR is not a theory. It is a 'System of Lies'   Michael Riversong Education
• [NPA Chat] Wave transmision of energy in a gaseous particulate fluid medium.   Robert Kerr
• [NPA Chat] Fine structure constant   Antonio Saraiva
  • [NPA Chat] Fine structure constant   carl littmann
• [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Michael Riversong Education
  • [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Dave Howells
• [NPA Chat] SR a 'System of Lies'   Michael Riversong Education

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